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General Category => Dweller Discussion => Topic started by: Dweller admin on January 12, 2014, 09:13:14 PM

Title: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Dweller admin on January 12, 2014, 09:13:14 PM
I'm not sure if someone still checks the forum, but at least there seems to be a little activity in the chat. I'm not gonna start by apologizing for the lack of updates, because I guess that is what brought me to the point of being so fed up with Dweller in the first place. Dweller has been some kind of hobby project for me where I can hack away on something just for fun, but lately working on the project has become more of a chore and it has completely killed my motivation.

On the other hand I feel that I need to finish the next version with the new graphics from TheShroom, since he really did some great work and it would be a shame if you guys didn't get a chance to see the new UI in action. I have uploaded a beta version with the new graphics but there's still some way to go before the new UI feels tight and coherent. If you feel like it, please give it a try:

http://files.dwellergame.com/beta/

If you try the beta then please let me know what you think of the new UI and report things in the UI that doesn't work or is buggy.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Dweller admin on January 12, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
Note: I haven't tried the J2ME beta. It might not work at all. Also, the J2ME version will differ in the UI from the Android and desktop version since the J2ME version doesn't support touch screens.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: CFS on January 13, 2014, 12:48:14 AM
There are even new people joining the forum once in a while. Why don't you charge a small fee for Dweller? Nobody would be hurt, I would pay for it. Thus you earn a few bucks which might fuel your motivation. Dweller is just to awesome to lay it to rest. Or maybe you try to find a willing coder to give your game to? It would still be your game but it would stay alive and develop further.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Zadezl on January 13, 2014, 01:44:32 AM
Hurray, Bjorn here. Bringing back my old Nokia phone and testing the new beta :D
The fist thing I see that the key config in j2me version is pretty buggy
But all of that the new UI is amazing :D
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Dweller admin on January 13, 2014, 10:15:57 AM
Zadezl, thank you for verifying the J2ME version. What exactly is buggy with the key configuration?
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Zadezl on January 13, 2014, 11:01:37 AM
All the key I set showed difference in the setting. Such as when I set "u" for target mod but it showed "j", and all the key likes that.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Mateusz P-G on January 13, 2014, 11:32:42 PM
J2ME:

Same as for Zadezl. Instead of showing me the right keys, it lists some nonsense
letters (j, u, etc.) and those characters that you usually see when lacking proper
font. Also, all the handset-specific keys (SoftKey1, SoftKey2, Cancel, Center/OK,
Call and Hang up) are now treated as one - showing up as "Key_0".

The game is a bit slower with the new "granular" walls' shading, or maybe it's the
UIs fault.

While pretty, the UI is largely useless for non-touch J2ME, which is kinda obvious.
The new top-bar in info screens (Equiement, Inventory, Quets) can't fit the texts
properly  - longer texts are split into 2 lines which are centered vertically so one
can only see the bottom half of the top line of text and top half of the second line.
The "X" at the top to quit those screens is useless here, again.

There is no Character screen (not available thru the Menu at least, which is the
only way to get there for non-touch handsets).

Trying to bring up the QuickSlots produces a non fatal error. I would expect it was
supposed to enable a cursor in the new quickslots.


Android:

On Android, I got trouble mapping the keys - while some work, the physical D-pad
refuses to move the character ingame, while it works in the menus. I can't move
by touching the floor tiles either, so that effectively killed the game for me.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Zadezl on January 14, 2014, 02:15:49 AM
Yep, all the thing Mateusz said about j2me version is right. The new UI looks cool but it almost useless for the non-touch devices. And maybe you should shrink the size of the new UI, it is too large in the screen ( it takes one third of the screen in resolution 320x240 )
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Dweller admin on January 14, 2014, 06:53:43 PM
Hello again. I have uploaded a new beta that fixes the bugs with the keyconfiguration. I'll work on the other reported bugs during the week. Thanks.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: makiki on January 14, 2014, 10:27:10 PM
On android (previous beta, not sure if you fixed it): the slime description seems like you wanted to fit it in one row of text, including stats, name, and pics. Not sure about other entities, but I think that normal rat description was good.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Zadezl on January 15, 2014, 07:46:15 AM
Hello again. I have uploaded a new beta that fixes the bugs with the keyconfiguration. I'll work on the other reported bugs during the week. Thanks.

There is still bug with the handset-specific keys, instead of "Key_0" in the last beta now it is the up key in D-pad
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: stubble on January 15, 2014, 10:27:45 AM
It is really laggy on an android tablet took a long time to make a single move.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: makiki on January 15, 2014, 04:08:44 PM
It is really laggy on an android tablet took a long time to make a single move.
That issue is know from beginning of android tablets. It's not a beta version bug.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Dweller admin on January 17, 2014, 12:12:42 AM
A new beta will be available in a few minutes. The new version is more J2ME friendly with a lean UI without a massive HUD. The quickslots are hidden from the start but can be brought up and used through a hotkey. Please test the new version and let me know if you find anything. If nothing major is found I'll go ahead an push out new releases to Google Play and dwellergame.com
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Zadezl on January 17, 2014, 02:20:51 AM
Hello again. I have uploaded a new beta that fixes the bugs with the keyconfiguration. I'll work on the other reported bugs during the week. Thanks.

There is still bug with the handset-specific keys, instead of "Key_0" in the last beta now it is the up key in D-pad

This bug is still appear in the new beta Bjorn
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Jesusgeorg on January 17, 2014, 02:55:13 AM
Bjorn! Please be happy again! If your hobby doesn't make you happy anymore, put it down for a while, forever, whatever is best, tell the world that updates are on a hiatus, and then just bask in the glow of all the happy Dweller players on your forum. Above all, remember that you don't owe us anything, you made a free toy that we all play with, and we love it.

Of course, if you still want to keep at it, rock on, and if we can do anything to make it more fun for you, let us know. I'm not actually *good* at anything, so I won't be able to actually *help* make things better, but... ok, not sure where I'm going with that.

IMHO, if you just stamped the current release "Final" instead of "Beta," no one would know the difference. Even with the occasional bug, it's more stable and playable than anything Bethesda has ever released. You've done a great job, and if you feel like you're done, rock on with the real life. (Also re-release the version where magic was at %200 time and label it "Hard Mode." I hate losing so much, but let's be honest, that was a stable Roguelike that was exactly as unfair and abusive as the rest of the genre =))

PS: I donated so my request is that you relax and just hang out with us on the forum for a while. Or e-mail me or something. I dunno. Just smile a bunch.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Mateusz P-G on January 17, 2014, 11:31:12 PM
Hello again. I have uploaded a new beta that fixes the bugs with the keyconfiguration. I'll work on the other reported bugs during the week. Thanks.

There is still bug with the handset-specific keys, instead of "Key_0" in the last beta now it is the up key in D-pad

This bug is still appear in the new beta Bjorn

Key mapping bug still there, unfortunately.
Why did it go wrong when it worked ok in the last official release?
 :-\
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Dweller admin on January 18, 2014, 01:42:01 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure I understand what's wrong with the key definitions now. It looks good when I try it here. Please try to explain it in as much detail as possible. Thanks!
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Zadezl on January 18, 2014, 03:06:00 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure I understand what's wrong with the key definitions now. It looks good when I try it here. Please try to explain it in as much detail as possible. Thanks!

Ok. When you set handset-specific keys ( Right selection key, Left selection key, Middle selection key and Call key ) for any functions in key config, it only showed "↑" and used "↑" for those functions that you had set instead of the handset-specific keys
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: Dweller admin on February 18, 2014, 10:35:06 PM
I'm still working on a new version. The new version will have hardware accelerated graphics and should feel a lot more responsive. Not sure when it's ready though.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: makiki on February 19, 2014, 06:54:55 AM
Not sure when it's ready though.
I know: soontm :D
But don't worry, you just should check forums more often than now. That's everything we need.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: ZiZNaK on February 28, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Nice to see some movement here.  Got a new phone and hence I'm back to playing dweller again.  One of the first apps I download :)

Will playtest your next beta and post!

and thankyou bjorn please don't get too frustrated! This game is awesome and people love it.
Title: Re: Status update and some kind of semi functional beta
Post by: makiki on February 28, 2014, 07:30:02 PM
Nice to see some movement here.  Got a new phone and hence I'm back to playing dweller again.  One of the first apps I download :)

Will playtest your next beta and post!

and thankyou bjorn please don't get too frustrated! This game is awesome and people love it.
I hope that your new phone isn't too new.